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Post by wideawakeat4am on Aug 7, 2013 16:01:40 GMT -8
I'm guessing that there isn't anything new and the internet, for all its good points, just tends to throw me red herrings (or most recently, it's thrown me jabbering trouts, as there is a whole article entitled "What happened to the late singer Karen carpenter's ex husband?" which is all about the singer Tom Burris in a band called Jabbering Trout.....clearly this is not the same Tom Burris).
We know Tom is onto wife No. 3 and has barely said a word about Karen following the gagging contract and massive amount of hush-money after Karen's passing, but it is still a huge missing part of the puzzle is it not ?
I know that his marriage to Karen was a small part of his life, but he must still appreciate the importance of the information he holds. He must be in his early 70s by now, so surely he has nothing to lose by talking now ?
Will whatever he has to say go to the grave ?
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Post by polarbear on Aug 8, 2013 6:37:41 GMT -8
That's a good question. I have no idea, but maybe he just doesn't want to share that part of his life with the public. Or he thinks it's not fair to talk about without Karen around?
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Post by Rick Henry on Aug 8, 2013 7:26:31 GMT -8
I think he'd like to share his experiences with Karen. I'm sure it's a very interesting part of the overall story. He had done a few interviews back in the late 80's or so... but was hushed by the Carpenter family. |
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Post by maskawisiwin on Aug 8, 2013 17:39:01 GMT -8
I'd like to think that thirty years after the fact, he's learned a lot from life and with any luck he's not the same guy anymore. I mean, I was a bit different 30 years ago too...  And peoples' memories/perspectives change over time too as they go through life. |
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Post by Rick Henry on Aug 8, 2013 21:17:56 GMT -8
I like what you have to say about Tom, maskawisiwin. Afterall it was a long time ago and I would think that he's probably learned from his situation with Karen. although, I do not defend his actions toward Karen, I also feel it takes two to make a relationship work or fail. Karen was not perfect in the marriage or relationship with Tom. |
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Post by wideawakeat4am on Aug 10, 2013 4:06:19 GMT -8
I like what you have to say about Tom, maskawisiwin. Afterall it was a long time ago and I would think that he's probably learned from his situation with Karen. although, I do not defend his actions toward Karen, I also feel it takes two to make a relationship work or fail. Karen was not perfect in the marriage or relationship with Tom.
I would agree with that. I think that Burris was Mr Right Now, rather than Mr Right. Karen wanted to get married and Tom asked her, but having said that we all now know, having read 'Little Girl Blue' Karen wanted to call the wedding off, but her mother did the whole 'People Magazine' speech. As with the solo album, Karen should have stuck to her guns and gone with her gut instincts. She should have called the wedding off once she knew about Tom's vasectomy. Tom probably has changed since then, after all he found someone else to marry and she must know everything - all the things we don't - and that must say something. |
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Post by Rick Henry on Aug 11, 2013 23:20:06 GMT -8
Wideawake... I don't think Karen stuck to her guns andwent with her instincts concerning her album. Had she went with her instincts she would have fought and got that album released in 1980. she truly believed in the album. she only agreed to let it be shelved because she was pretty much forced into it. |
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Post by Rick Henry on Aug 14, 2013 19:23:11 GMT -8
Here's a pic of Tom Burris taken in January 2013. He looks healthy and like he's doing well.  |
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Post by woolf on Aug 15, 2013 2:25:26 GMT -8
Rick...wow, I have never seen this photo. Can you say who took it?? Where Burris is? Etc....thanks for posting it...
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Post by wideawakeat4am on Aug 15, 2013 9:14:07 GMT -8
Rick...wow, I have never seen this photo. Can you say who took it?? Where Burris is? Etc....thanks for posting it... I've never seen this either, in fact the only photos of Tom Burris I have seen are the ones taken when he was married to Karen - mainly on the wedding day. He is looking well it has to be said, is that his son with him ? He looks too young to be Karen's stepson, I guess that guy would be in his 50s by now, but I think he went onto have more children despite the vasectomy. As much as I want to dislike him and not have any interest, I do feel I want to know more about him. |
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Post by woolf on Aug 15, 2013 13:30:54 GMT -8
Yes, same here. I don't really care for him at all, but am oh so curious about his whereabouts, etc....
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Post by pookeysmom527 on Aug 29, 2013 13:46:02 GMT -8
I totally agree. Unless he has something to add about Karen, I have no interest in the guy. I thought I heard that that photo was on a private plane for a political campaigner? I can't remember. LOL
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Post by irene on Aug 31, 2013 22:30:18 GMT -8
I don't know if there are any statute of limitations on a gag order, but I don't think Tom can ever publicly say anything about his marriage to Karen. He was supposedly paid quite a bit of silence money.
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Post by mrjazzman on Sept 17, 2013 10:31:22 GMT -8
Tom Burris is 72 years old,lives in Lincoln CA(near Sacramento),is remarried to his third wife,and has a 14 year-old son(from that marriage).He also has a 51 year-old son from his first marriage.
While there is a "legal arrangement" between him and Richard where he cannot speak to the media-there is also the fact that he was married to a world-famous singer,and under the circumstances,It's in his best interest to keep a low profile and live a quiet life.
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Post by kmacchuck on Dec 18, 2013 19:06:23 GMT -8
Wow - great comments here. Totally agreed on all accounts..
*A little part of me bristles when I even hear the name Tom Burris
*He's probably nothing like he was 30 years ago
*It'd be nice to hear something from him about the marriage - otherwise I could care less about him.
As a member of the media, my guess is that he's either written or recorded some info somewhere about his marriage to Karen, to be released when he passes. JMO
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Post by wideawakeat4am on Dec 24, 2013 15:00:25 GMT -8
I hope that's the case, kmacchuck, but I don't see what he has to lose going public before he dies.
At 72 years old, would he get thrown in jail fore breaking Richard's gagging order ? I doubt it.
He might get sued of course, but I just think that as time goes by, the risks are less.
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Post by darling7879 on Jul 14, 2019 21:38:38 GMT -8
Hint, everyone. Karen kept a personal diary and wrote something in that diary every day. I would rather see Karen's diaries from childhood on than anything else out there (hint, I know I am mentioned from September 1978 to June 1979 in Karen's diaries).
I also heard it differently and that Tom didn't tell Karen about the vasectomy until after the marriage. Definitely DO NOT BELIEVE ANYTHING Phil Ramone's wife says about Karen. Rod Temperton and Karen referred to Phil's wife as 'Snitchy' when Phil and Phil's wife weren't around. Unless stuck at Phil's house, Karen would not be around 'Snitchy' if possible. The story I heard was that Tom hid the vasectomy until the marriage. Karen found out about the vasectomy after the marriage and said, "I don't care how much it costs, get it reversed." Tom said, "No." Divorce papers filed a year later. There was much more to it however, I saw Karen in June 1981 and Karen told me what happened and that the marriage was over before June 1981 but she couldn't file papers until after at least September 1981 because of a one year rule on divorces.
At least one of Karen's secrets, Rod Temperton read palms and I actually saw Karen's "life line" in person and her life line was short about an inch and a quarter to an inch and a half long or just passed the top of her thumb. Rod also said that out of the two billion people on the planet that the possibility of two soul mates actually meeting each other was zero. Impossible. Could not happen. Then Rod turned around and said that Karen and I were soul mates even though it was impossible for us to meet. Rod Temperton was definitely an interesting person to talk to.
And hint, if Tom goes to his grave, I still have the info Karen gave me as to why she divorced Tom when Karen and I talked on June 12, 1981 about it.
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